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[Laudate Dominum]

Hows this for a smart Ape?

[Paddington]

Dope!

[Sternhauser]

Chimpanzees also hold a distinct edge over humans when it comes to their prowess in ripping off limbs and gouging out eyeballs with their bare hands.

~S

[Brute Beast]

Chimpanzees also hold a distinct edge over humans when it comes to their prowess in ripping off limbs and gouging out eyeballs with their bare hands.

~S

What do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting that because Travis the "pet" chimp mutilated a woman (what I presume to be the allusion) we're supposed to hold all chimps as being barbarous? I can give endless examples of horrors perpetrated by Homo sapiens. One example I was recently reading about:

Spoiler

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom

Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three black males, and "taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.
Channon's death came after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution – all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

More examples of human depravity here (tip of the iceberg): List of serial killers by country.
And of course consider the histories of socially sanctioned cannibalism, torture, rape, slavery, execution, infanticide, warfare, racism, xenophobia, genocide, and so on. We pwn any other primates when it comes to such things.

And while male common chimps are prone to aggressive behavior, bonobos - the other extant species of chimp - are nonviolent. (The behavior of Homo sapiens is more comparable to common chimps than to bonobos.) Also, I think macaques are much better than humans in terms of the goodness of their nature - for example they are in many ways highly empathetic and altruistic. We torture and kill a great many macaques in experiments and product testing, including vivisections.
Primate behavior is complicated and to some extent morally ambiguous (including humans). You can find the behaviors that we value as good in common chimps, bonobos, gibbons, macaques, vervet monkeys, and so on. It would be a crude mistake to demonize common chimps. They're capable of nasty things and good things, similar to humans; and they vary as individuals, as do humans. Here is some props to chimps. More on teh chimps.

[Laudate Dominum]

Chimpanzees also hold a distinct edge over humans when it comes to their prowess in ripping off limbs and gouging out eyeballs with their bare hands.

~S

Dope!

Don't mind me I'm just collecting teh evidence to take to the story thread.

BB is the smartest Ape of them all.

[Brute Beast]

Just watched these vids. lawl

http://trailers.appl...ney/chimpanzee/

[Irenaeus G. Saintonge]

What do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting that because Travis the "pet" chimp mutilated a woman (what I presume to be the allusion) we're supposed to hold all chimps as being barbarous? I can give endless examples of horrors perpetrated by Homo sapiens. One example I was recently reading about:

Spoiler

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom

Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three black males, and "taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.
Channon's death came after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution – all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

More examples of human depravity here (tip of the iceberg): List of serial killers by country.
And of course consider the histories of socially sanctioned cannibalism, torture, rape, slavery, execution, infanticide, warfare, racism, xenophobia, genocide, and so on. We pwn any other primates when it comes to such things.

And while male common chimps are prone to aggressive behavior, bonobos - the other extant species of chimp - are nonviolent. (The behavior of Homo sapiens is more comparable to common chimps than to bonobos.) Also, I think macaques are much better than humans in terms of the goodness of their nature - for example they are in many ways highly empathetic and altruistic. We torture and kill a great many macaques in experiments and product testing, including vivisections.
Primate behavior is complicated and to some extent morally ambiguous (including humans). You can find the behaviors that we value as good in common chimps, bonobos, gibbons, macaques, vervet monkeys, and so on. It would be a crude mistake to demonize common chimps. They're capable of nasty things and good things, similar to humans; and they vary as individuals, as do humans. Here is some props to chimps. More on teh chimps.

I interpreted his quote as referring to a physiological advantage on the part of chimpanzees to carry out certain acts of violence against similarly shaped animals.
For instance, the human mouth seems to have developed such that it wouldn't be easy to chew off someone else's face, while it seems that chimpanzees are able to do so rather more easily.

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[Brute Beast]

Whatever the proper interpretation, this makes everything all better. Imho.

[Irenaeus G. Saintonge]

Whatever the proper interpretation, this makes everything all better. Imho.

I really cannot think of a single thing that isn't made better by that song.

[Sternhauser]

What do you mean exactly? Are you suggesting that because Travis the "pet" chimp mutilated a woman (what I presume to be the allusion) we're supposed to hold all chimps as being barbarous? I can give endless examples of horrors perpetrated by Homo sapiens. One example I was recently reading about:

Spoiler

Murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom

Christian and Newsom had gone on a date at a local restaurant on Saturday, January 6, 2007, but did not return home. During their night out, the couple was carjacked, bound and blindfolded by three black males, and "taken back to Lemaricus Devall 'Slim' Davidson's rented house on Chipman Street."
Christian's parents found her abandoned Toyota 4-Runner two blocks away from the Chipman Street house the following Monday with the help of her mobile phone provider. An envelope recovered from the vehicle yielded fingerprint evidence that led police to Lemaricus Davidson and 2316 Chipman Street. When police went to the address on Tuesday, January 9, they found the home unoccupied and Christian's body in a trash can in the kitchen.
According to the testimony of the Knox County Acting Medical Examiner Dr. Darinka Mileusnic-Polchan at the subsequent trial of Eric Boyd, Newsom was repeatedly sodomized with an object and then blindfolded, gagged, arms and feet bound and his head covered. Barefoot, he was either led or dragged outside the house to a set of nearby railroad tracks. He was shot in the back of the head, the neck, and the back, and his body then set on fire.
Channon's death came after hours of sexual torture, medical examiner Mileusnic-Polchan testified. Channon suffered horrific injuries to her vagina, anus and mouth. She was not only raped but savaged with "an object," possibly a broken chair leg, the doctor testified. She was beaten in the head. Some type of chemical was poured down her throat, and her body, including her bleeding and battered genital area, likely scrubbed with the same solution – all while Channon was alive, the forensic expert said. She was then "hog-tied," with curtains and strips of bedding, her face covered tightly with a small trash bag and her body stashed inside five large trash bags before being placed inside a large trash can and covered with sheets. Channon died slowly, suffocating, the medical examiner said.

More examples of human depravity here (tip of the iceberg): List of serial killers by country.
And of course consider the histories of socially sanctioned cannibalism, torture, rape, slavery, execution, infanticide, warfare, racism, xenophobia, genocide, and so on. We pwn any other primates when it comes to such things.

And while male common chimps are prone to aggressive behavior, bonobos - the other extant species of chimp - are nonviolent. (The behavior of Homo sapiens is more comparable to common chimps than to bonobos.) Also, I think macaques are much better than humans in terms of the goodness of their nature - for example they are in many ways highly empathetic and altruistic. We torture and kill a great many macaques in experiments and product testing, including vivisections.
Primate behavior is complicated and to some extent morally ambiguous (including humans). You can find the behaviors that we value as good in common chimps, bonobos, gibbons, macaques, vervet monkeys, and so on. It would be a crude mistake to demonize common chimps. They're capable of nasty things and good things, similar to humans; and they vary as individuals, as do humans. Here is some props to chimps. More on teh chimps.

Bonobos prostitute themselves. They're dirty hippie monkeys. Humans may sometimes resort to cannibalism, torture, rape, execution, infanticide, warfare, racism, xenophobia, and genocide, but at least we humans pretend we shouldn't do those things. Those godless monkeys don't even bother pretending to care. We humans have very strict rules about how to justify slaughtering innocent members of our own species. Monkeys slake their thirst on the blood of baby monkeys. They don't pay taxes. And they scare little girls.



This guy was giving airplane rides to baby monkeys, and ends up being chased by the entire monkey nation.



And they don't respect private property, also.

Monkeys are monstrous, face-ripping hellspawn. And funny.

Q.E.D.

~S

[Apotheoun]

[Laudate Dominum]

Bonobos prostitute themselves. They're dirty hippie monkeys.

This sounds like you think they are sinful, free will?
Besides I think yer only jealous.

They don't pay taxes. And they scare little girls.

What's wrong with that? I thought you agreed with that sort of thing, not paying taxes that is, because of no gov. I hate scaring little girls it hurts my ear drums when they scream.

This guy was giving airplane rides to baby monkeys, and ends up being chased by the entire monkey nation.

Maybe he was so nerdy that they thought he was going to do something to the baby monkeys.

[Sternhauser]

This sounds like you think they are sinful, free will?
Besides I think yer only jealous.

They unblinkingly do the bidding of their hellish masters. No more, no less.

What's wrong with that? I thought you agreed with that sort of thing, not paying taxes that is, because of no gov. I hate scaring little girls it hurts my ear drums when they scream.

Society cannot exist without taking money from one's neighbors by force or threat of force. This is a Holy Doctrine of the Church. Do not dance on the line of heresy! Monkeys freely fornicate, eat the offspring of other monkeys and fling poo at each other because they do not have taxation. Taxes, as Oliver Wendell Holmes said, are what we pay for civilized society.

Maybe he was so nerdy that they thought he was going to do something to the baby monkeys.

His name and hat were certainly very nerdy, so I can understand their concern.

~S

[Irenaeus G. Saintonge]

Society cannot exist without taking money from one's neighbors by force or threat of force. This is a Holy Doctrine of the Church. Do not dance on the line of heresy! Monkeys freely fornicate, eat the offspring of other monkeys and fling poo at each other because they do not have taxation. Taxes, as Oliver Wendell Holmes said, are what we pay for civilized society.

Death to poo flingers!
Then tax their estate when they're dead.

[Brute Beast]

Monkey attacks FTW!

[Sternhauser]

Death to poo flingers!
Then tax their estate when they're dead.

Amen, brother. But their estates, once they have hap'ly died and returned the dark, vap'rous aether realms from which they were spawned, are entirely comprised of bones piled at the base of their glutting-trees. Let them be burned! A true bon-fire to cheer our hearts.

~S

[Laudate Dominum]

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For instance, the human mouth seems to have developed such that it wouldn't be easy to chew off someone else's face, while it seems that chimpanzees are able to do so rather more easily.

Ahah but the human mouth in conjunction with its voice box and tongue is able to communicate. And thus able to effectively cause much more death and destruction than any other creature.
Where would Hitler be if he couldn't communicate with his face?
warning the F word is seen here.

The world was in need of a chimp to do the face off thing with Hitler.

[Apotheoun]

[Laudate Dominum]

Well played!

[Laudate Dominum]

What about this one, bird brains?